It came from a simple observation: I really wanted to open up to the creative industries and to sectors other than fashion. And when your name, Entreprendre Mode, speaks of fashion, it's really confining. There were quite a few people I wanted to interview who were put off by the name. So it was a way of repositioning the podcast, giving it a new look, reworking the artistic side of it and interviewing people I couldn't access with the old format.

Well, this is our workshop. This is where we work, and where we spend most of our time. So the idea was for it not to be visually cluttered or influenced. In fact, if it was down to me, I'd like to live in a white cube. Putting it simply, I need to have a clear horizon to feel good!

As for me, I'm a total control freak, so I like things to be very clean and tidy.

Our old apartment was smaller. We'd already launched the brand, and we were living out of boxes and off clothes racks - it was tricky! And we'd just had a baby... and got a dog, Salto. When we decided to leave, it was important to be as close as possible to a park. At one point, we were even thinking of moving to the countryside. But when it came down to it, we're too attached to Paris at the moment. So, a park and a large living room, because we live and work in the same place: that was the brief.

So that we can do photo shoots, welcome our friends and suppliers, and possibly a few trainees...

Yes, so we needed somewhere flexible, spacious and airy. We had help from an apartment hunter, who showed us a dozen or so places. In fact, we didn't fall in love with the place when we first found it.

That's because, at first glance, the apartment was very much divided up. But when we tapped on all the walls, we realised that nothing was load-bearing. So we decided to knock them all down.

Julien Fuentes, who is first and foremost one of our friends, but who happens to be an interior designer, (laughs) worked with us. Even though we had our own ideas in mind, it was good to brainstorm with him. He helped us to create what we needed. He designed the space and reorganised everything. Do you remember, Alice, our brief, and the moodboard we drew up?

I remember the Donald Judd apartment in New York. But we're not quite there yet! We told Julien we needed a very large living room that would serve both as our office and our dining room. It was also important for me to have a large kitchen.

This large table is a focal point for us. We love entertaining, and we love the large work space it gives us. We found it by searching on the internet; it was made to measure.

My work is my life. So I have no problem working all the time.

With a child, you have to reorganise your life, but you also have to switch off: when they come home at six o'clock in the evening, you shut everything down, and then in the morning, you spend time together. It's great, it helps you structure your day. Andrea really helps us to take more time for ourselves too.

He forces us to stop what we're doing, but he also compels us to keep busy. The minute you're not on top form you can feel that it's having an impact on him, and you have to do something, take some exercise, for example, to clear your mind.

I grew up in Oyonnax in a loving family. My dad was a catering entrepreneur, my mum was a nurse, and then she worked with my dad. It's funny, but it's more my grandparents' homes that have made an impression on me. They lived in Saint-Etienne, in one of those apartments with a Formica table, lots of earthenware, and always a big tureen in the middle of the table. It was more my grandparents who influenced me aesthetically. My parents didn't really have this culture of design and art. Instead, they were obsessed with the idea of succeeding and escaping from the conditions they lived in. For me, like many Paris-dwellers who are not born Parisians, it was this desire to move towards culture and more creative professions that drove me to come to Paris.

I was born in Paris, I grew up in Paris, and I come from a family where everyone was born in Paris, and is a lawyer. My parents divorced when I was young, but they shared a love of travelling, so I was able to travel with them when I was little. Lots! It developed my curiosity to explore other cultures, other traditions and other skills and expertise. In Paris, my mother would take us to museums rather than parks and squares. We'd go and eat at Rose Bakery afterwards as my rewards for being patient! I also spent every Wednesday with my grandmother and a lot of time at their house in the Auvergne. It's a region that has left a lasting impression on me. Cooking with my grandmother - that's when I learned about terroir - growing up partly in the countryside... Yes, it was very fulfilling.

Yes. Frankly, I think it's pretty cool. I'm not aware of my age at all. I've always felt wise beyond my years.

To be honest, you may have done it a bit out of generosity because you always said that I shouldn't be too old to have children.

It's a factor. But it's not just that!

I don't know if we're more adaptable. Personally, I think we make a big fuss about children and, in the end, it's very simple.

I got some coaching to help me reorganise my day-to-day life. I come from a family where everyone is very generous, and I have this tendency, too. Of course, it's my upbringing and as a woman, you tend to sacrifice yourself for your family, you stop exercising to prepare baby food and then, poof! You lose a bit of that precious time to yourself. Not to mention managing two businesses at the same time, and then the dog, and Andrea, and still spending time with Adrien... In fact, it was driving me mad. I thought to myself: this is too hard, it's costing me too much. I worked with my coach to draw up my dream timetable and then thought about how to make it happen, how to find techniques to make it work.

We set up a schedule, a routine with timetables. For example, you mark out when you will exercise in your schedule. If you don't make a note in your diary, you don't do it. So everything is set in stone, in black and white.

You have to say no a lot.

There are rules. For example, I no longer go out to dinner during the week. When I did, it meant I stayed out late and came home just to put Andrea back to bed. At weekends, no problem. But at the beginning, I thought it would be the same during the week, that it would be cool and nice: as a result, the next day took too much out of me because I was tired, and the little one was tired.

Having less time makes you a lot more efficient too. You know that come six o'clock your day is over.

Yes, and then when things don't go as planned, you have to be able to tell yourself it just doesn't matter.

Yes, of course! By 2021, we were growing fast. We benefited greatly from the COVID effect. Things were going well for us. We had a structure, and we started to have more employees and grow. Times were hard for most brands in 2022: the war in Ukraine created high inflation, so people were consuming less, and that's not to mention the rising cost of raw materials. All that created complications for us, also linked to the fact that we'd just had a baby, and we were a bit burnt out, to be perfectly honest. So we decided to put it on hold to take our time, reposition the brand, weigh up what we really wanted to do and take a little time for ourselves, too, before relaunching the machine, which is what we did in 2024. And I think that was quite beneficial because it meant we could take a step back from the initial experience of Réuni version 1, which didn't really evolve that much, and to start afresh with new ambitions.

It's true; it was an intense and fairly turbulent year.

It was a lot of things, yes. But it was good.

Yes, we earn our living with Réuni. I also have my podcast, which is a fairly important source of income for me. I sell sponsorship, like an online magazine. I've been using Squarespace for my podcast for eighteen months now. The anxiety of being an independent is there, but we're coping well.

The most important pieces are the Gino Sarfati lights. Go on, Alice!

My first apartment was in the 18th arrondissement. There was a gallery called Christine Diegoni near my home. When we were at college, we always went to her gallery to drool over the lighting. We said to ourselves: one day, we'll have some of those. And when we moved here, obviously, we went back to her to buy this large sconce, here on the kitchen wall.

Il y a aussi cette lampe, qu'on a à notre chevet dans la chambre.

On l'a trouvée dans une recyclerie en Corrèze et on l'a achetée 5 €. Il y a cette petite marque, « AT ». Plus tard, on a reçu une amie designer qui a regardé la lampe... Elle nous a dit : « Mais attendez, comment vous avez eu une lampe Albert Tormos ? C'est un sculpteur français (Albert Tormos avait un atelier à Saint-Tropez et a développé des lampes sculptures en pierre du Gard. On situe sa période d'activité dans les années 1960-70, ndlr).

On peut aussi parler des livres et des magazines, dont on raffole.

Adrien a une collection de magazines impressionnante. Et rangée avec maniaquerie. C'est presque flippant, tellement c'est bien rangé.

Oui, les Monde d'Hermès, on les a tous achetés, entre autres. J'ai pas mal de bouquins sur Donald Judd, Gino Sarfati, Pierre Chapo. On est très inspirés par le XX^e siècle, mais aussi par la période gréco-romaine... Le grand écart !

Rothko, Soulages aussi... bon, on pourrait vous en citer tant.

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We would love to have five or six Rotondo modules in bouclé in our living room for reading, dreaming, and entertaining. Its design is simple and effective, and the seating is perfect. We would also love to have the Chiesa bench in our entryway. We appreciate it for its simplicity, functionality, and elegance.

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